Las Vegas, NV-Whole Foods CEO John Mackey told the libertarian-minded audience at Freedom Fest Saturday that Microsoft was a better company when Bill Gates ran it. During a debate, which focused on competition versus monopoly, with fellow libertarian and businessman co-founder of and former CEO PayPal Peter Thiel, Mackey discussed the rise and fall of General Motors as well as where thinks Microsoft is going since Gates left the company to focus on philanthropy.